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Post by dev on Jun 27, 2015 4:17:07 GMT -5
kits are all-too-oft the most likely candidates for troublemaking amongst their clan; yet who is to say they might not start some beyond it, too? tensions between shadowclan and their neighbors are high, and many seem worried about how these situations might come to a head. in the midst of it all, @newtkit, of spiderstep and cherrystorm's litter, wanders from where she is supposed to be, as many kits seem too eager to do. whether accompanied by any other kits (be they NPCs or her littermates, starlingkit and lilykit) or on her own, the little kitten, regardless, ends up straying from the camp completely, worrying both of her parents and sending the clan into a panic. as the kit or kits' location is eventually determined to be nowhere within the camp and concerns rise among shadowclan, search parties are sent out to try and track where their youngest may have scurried off to. meanwhile, newtkit and her companions soon find that things outside of the camp are not at all as they expected. still barely older than two moons and not yet built for so much traveling, the kits grow restless and upset, exhausted paws wanting nothing more to be home in their nests but only making themselves more lost in their more and more frantic searching for the camp. two search parties are sent out from shadowclan, but a bout of greenleaf rain makes tracking difficult, and one of the parties discovers traces of the kits' presence but loses the trail. the other makes a larger circle from the other direction, eventually ending up at the thunderclan border - where they encounter another patrol, heading straight for them. at first they anticipate hostility - but as the patrol draws closer, they can see this will not be the case; this is not a battle patrol. instead, the cats are carrying the lost shadowclan kits. option 1. shadowclan begrudgingly must thank their neighbors for the safe return of their young, and thunderclan, much to shadowclan's annoyance, now is owed a favor politically. this can either be for better or for worse, as far as relations go. option 2. the shadowclan patrol is mistrustful of the thunderclanners' intentions, and might even disbelieve that they did not in fact steal the kits. some amongst them might attempt to start a fight, though likely in the end are stopped at the realization that they must get the kits back to the camp before they get ill, sodden and cold as they are. relations between thunderclan and shadowclan drop even lower on account of this lack of trust, and there may be talk of retaliation from either clan, either because of kit stealing or even because of accusations thereof. option 3. whichever direction the above two options go, it is possible that newtkit or the other kits might find a friend in thunderclan on account of being found and treated well by the other clan cats. this could cause some complications when the kits one day become 'paws, as they may be more trusting of thunderclan than their clanmates are, and even might consider the cats or one or two who saved them to be a cat worthy of their trust. roles needed! wandering kits1. @newtkit 2. lilykit3. starlingkitshadowclan search patrol #1 (unsuccessful)1. batheart2. foxtail3. spiderstepshadowclan search patrol #2 (successful)1. cherrystorm2. boarstar3. @onyx thunderclan patrol1. silverflower2. aspenpaw3. @white 4. additional involved shadowclan cats?
1. firedream2. etc important stuff- as this is just an idea it can be modified extensively of course! whichever direction it might end up going could be totally up to you. do the thunderclan cats save the kits from a predator? who knows! it all depends where it ends up going.
- i'd love if the high-ranking cats in either clan could possibly get involved in this, though especially in shadowclan! boarstar, firedream, foxstar, or coalgaze, how might they react to all of this???
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Post by pumpkin on Jun 27, 2015 4:38:25 GMT -5
there's no way cherrystorm isn't going to get involved in all this ruckus, he's gonna be out there looking for his kits and probably screaming his head off the entire time. i'm not going to lie - he's the kind of cat that jumps to the worst conclusion possible and considering his history with thunderclan he's not going to be happy when he finds his kit in their care. he's likely to flat out jump to accusations - since, after all, in his experience thunderclan hasn't exactly been merciful to young cats. (tho lol that was back when you're an apprentice those warriors are probably elders by now cherrystorm please)
and then when he finds out thunderclan just helped the kits he's immediately going to be like 'so yeah you probably want something then i'm not rewarding you for getting your gross thunderclan germs all over my precious kits'
the successful patrol would probably be best for dramas, as cliche as it is to have the parent be on it
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Post by dev on Jun 27, 2015 4:49:55 GMT -5
added! i think those are some p interesting ideas 4 sure!! also i hope its ok but i'll tag a few notable shadowclan rpers i can think of off the top of my head in the hopes of gauging their interests in this! NPO, riptide, @lost, are any of you perhaps interested?
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Post by boggs on Jun 27, 2015 7:56:04 GMT -5
Batheart could be added to the first Shadowclan patrol. I need to get her in some action, and she'd be one of the first to volunteer to get out there in the muck and look for them. Stick her in the one that comes up empty.
but! I was wondering if the SC kit(s) could remain in Thunderclan's camp for a day two, up to three? Maybe the bout of storms ended up being a chain that was quite bad. Perhaps this could be one of the 3 patrols Silverflower went out on to see if she was ready to return to the warrior's den, she's hunting with a couple other cats-- and they find cold, tired, and hungry kits. About this time, maybe the storms get so bad that they're forced to return to camp with them. Silverflower could then care for them in the nursery until the storms and floods abate, at which point I'm assuming the kit(s) would have already revealed where they were from and who their parents were. This could help the kits form friendships with some apprentices in TC like you said and lead to a lot of pretty neat threads and interactions between them.
If that idea is a go, firedream would be worried sick. Especially after they didn't come home the first night, and perhaps not even the night after. At that point, his addiction to soothing herbs would probably spike and flare up for a time. He'd seem 'off' for a while, until news from Thunderclan arrived. At that point, clan rivalries would mean nothing, and he'd just be happy to get Shadowclan's kits back home safe. He'd also feel pretty shitty because he never ~saw it coming~ with those fancy dreams, so what good is he anyway? If the above idea isn't a go, pretty much the same thing happens, but way less severe. Additionally, for some sibling angst, if Cherrystorm had some thoughts on the matter it'd be perf and lead to interesting threads.
coalgaze is another animal entirely. His reaction and response to all of this really depends on how relations with Shadowclan have been going lately, and if they've hurt anyone that he cares for that he hasn't gotten vengeance on just yet. He's very strategic in nature and would definitely see this as a way to get Shadowclan under their elbows and force them to calm their shit at the border. If this plot takes place after the border skirmish mini-plot, then we've got problems in that he would most definitely prefer to use the kits as ammunition against Shadowclan for the perceived (or real) harm done to his sister and the other cats on the patrol. He'd want to make Shadowclan sweat and understand exactly how horribly it could have gone for them, and that the only reason it didn't was because of Thunderclan's mercy. They accept that and give thanks to the patrol that found the kits and to the queen that cared for them, the hunters that fed them, and the warriors that kept them safe--- or... they don't get the kits back. Nice low blow. Would be even better if the timing of all of this lined up so that it took place at a gathering.
Again, if the idea of a more prolonged stay doesn't work, totally cool, was just thinking it might give some more threading material and angst and whatnot.
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Post by NPO on Jun 27, 2015 8:34:39 GMT -5
Whenever I get tagged it one of these it always starts my day right. Thanks dev! <3
I like the idea of the kits sticking around for a bit. Having the ShadowClan cats be like "You had our kits all this time? Are they healthy? Did you brainwash them?" and the kits are just kinda sad their adventure's over and will miss their new friends. Or, conversely, someone there scared the kits and things get very, very bad.
I'll sign up Foxtail for the unsuccessful patrol. He'll probably try to search until they're found, possibly endangering the rest of his patrol in the storm. He'll be worried about the kits and when he finds out where they've been... I dunno. He might be thankful and relieved, but if anything untoward happened to them or they're hurt in any way he'll beg to be on the patrol that tears ThunderClan to bits.
I can throw Aspenpaw on the ThunderClan patrol. If the kits do stick around she'd probably be curious about them and get to know them a bit.
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Post by dev on Jun 27, 2015 10:30:10 GMT -5
i very much like your idea, boggs, at the very least if they stayed one night! i'm not sure two or three nights would be as feasible (it might be considered more of a direct attack on shadowclan in a way? like knowing the kits were theirs but making no attempt to return them? idk) but i guess we would see what other ppl think! i think one night at least tho is a great idea. it would definitely give the kits more reason to be 'thunderclan sympathizers' per se and i always love plots where young cats get to see into the life of another clan and realize they are not that different at all.
i'll put all the cats who have been mentioned either here or through pm as 'a go' into the first post now!
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Post by starks on Jun 27, 2015 11:25:56 GMT -5
PLOT ! i am in love with boggs' idea as well, tbh. i want to sign boarstar up for the successful patrol because he's going to be so pissed that thunderclan has them. if he believes that he has to owe thunderclan a favor, he's going to be so pissed, and u know, he's probably going to say that he does & will owe them that favor and turn his back on them when they need it because oops, drama. however, there's the option that he's like "wtf, why do you have our kits?" i don't think that the idea of shadowclan thinking thunderclan stole the kits tho would work because there's also the issues of scents. hoWEVER, it is raining so maybe it would work and i'm a big dumb because scents get washed away in boggy terrain. either way, boarbutt will be even more angry with foxstar, even if he was so nice in letting their kits stay in thunderclan.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2015 17:29:12 GMT -5
i'll throw @onyx into one of the shadowclan patrols, don't really care which one. and i'll throw @white into the thunderclan patrol, if that's okay.
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Post by aubergine on Jun 27, 2015 20:03:08 GMT -5
okay well clearly daddy spiderstep has to be involved. it's fine if he's on either patrol; might be better to split him and cherrystorm up? i'm totally fine with him being on the unsuccessful patrol.
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Post by starlingkit on Jun 28, 2015 15:56:30 GMT -5
Starlingkit will of course go adventuring with his siblings. I wouldn't be any fun without the star of the show, after all! (His words, not mine.)
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Post by doe on Jun 30, 2015 8:47:50 GMT -5
foxstar as paternal as foxstar is (he would never ever let anything ever happen to any child at all eVER OMG) i think he would definitely take the same road boggs is talking about with coalgaze. foxstar and boar obviously hate each other, so this could be a real advantage for thunderclan. i agree that two or three days might be a stretch, but what if -like someone mentioned- the storms were keeping thunderclan from delivering kits? i can only imagine that someone from thunderclan with an extreme moral compass would be DYING to let shadowclan know where their kits are. what about silverflower, she's a queen right? would she have enough sympathy for the parents of these kits to try and warn shadowclan? or brackenfang? i'm not sure, i think if their stay was longer than a day or so then it would definitely be more inclined toward an act of war. which isn't necessarily a bad thing, because i'm pretty sure boar and fox are both itching for each others' throats, so they would take anything as a slight.
and for the other sc x tc plot, the patrol, i think maybe it should take place after the kits? assuming the kits exchange doesn't break out in fighting, i think the high tensions of the 'you're at our mercy now' might drive shadowclan over the edge and try to draw blood.
edit: also i love the third option. i'm not sure what the personalities of the kits are, but i can see softer feelings on both sides. what if a thunderclan warrior (or apprentice, ehem whitepaw) recognizes a kit they once saved in a storm and they have to meet them in battle? i'm pretty sure the image of that sodden and terrified kit might make some claws hesitate. that would definitely give an awesome dynamic to the sc x tc rivalry here.
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Post by boggs on Jun 30, 2015 18:02:21 GMT -5
Sorry for not being clear-- I meant that the storms were so bad that TC wasn't able to return them, like doe said. Not that they were just gonna hang onto them for a couple of days, no biggy. Plus, with the storms being that bad, it adds additional urgency to SC patrols and higher tensions whenever they are reunited and come across TC and whatnot.
Maybe the first and second day are full of horrible thunder storms, and the better part of the third is just so flooded that navigating is dangerous or tricky? Idk. Something to just ensure that they have time to actually get to know some cats while in TC.
As for sending a scout or something to let them know that the kits are safe and alright, could work, silverflower would support it-- coalgaze would be against it. He wouldn't want any contact with SC until they were actually returning the kits to them so that SC had no ammunition and couldn't do any damage because there's nothing to harm (like that scout cat that might not come back from SC's camp until SC has their kits *cough* just a thought- Coal would be pissed, especially if he had given the order on Foxstar's order).
Timing of hte plots also = A+ can't wait to see them get going, when do we wanna start? I know that some members are either on summer vacations right now or have other reasons for sporadic activity, so do we want a tentative date set in the future?
Also-- Since these storms are so terrible and likely aren't just in TC and SC territories, would it be possible to just open up an 'event prompt' thread in the camps of RC, WC, and SkC? It'd be nice to be able to RP during the same arc. Kinda like a Meanwhile, in Riverclan... thingy.
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Post by pumpkin on Jun 30, 2015 18:11:12 GMT -5
i'm against the kits staying for more than a day because cherrystorm would be upset to the point that i think he would be outright dangerous for thunderclan cats
his history with thunderclan is really bad and he would probably consider this kidnapping even if the storms were really too bad to return the kits - he would consider that an excuse and if the other clan brought up that this was a debt he would bring up that he has sharp claws and teeth and they have a soft belly. he is also EXTREMELY possessive and insecure, to the point that he would regard any cats that had cared for his kits as threats to his relationship with them and would probably tell his kits that they are awful kidnappers who steal kits.
if you guys like the idea i'm okay with it going onwards, but cherrystorm should be kept in mind. i don't put him above attacking any cat that tries to bring up the debt, especially if spiderstep isn't around to keep him calm.
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Post by boggs on Jun 30, 2015 18:15:38 GMT -5
it's a shame, because that'd prompt a lot of very interesting developments and threads and plots, especially with what you described being Cherrystorm's reaction-it's quite unique. But if that's not the direction that you want to take your character, no one is going to force you to do so.
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